El Toro TV has organised a historic round table. Julio Ariza on one side and Juan Luis Cebrián on the other sat down to talk about the current situation in Spain. A sad situation in which it is necessary to sit down with those who do not think the same way in order to listen to each other and move forward. Spain needs to improve. Spain needs dialogue, understanding and logic, although it seems that the latter, together with common sense, has gone on holiday these days. The country’s reason for hope is that people everywhere are willing to talk.
What unites Ariza and Cebrián?
Concern and hope. Cebrián confesses that the disaster that the political class is making in this country has not yet managed to divide civil society as much as political society is. He also declares that he does not know why Sánchez will go down in history, but he is the president “who has divided Spaniards the most, without a doubt”. Even so, civil society offers reasons for hope and solutions.
El País by Juan Luis Cebrián
“Alfonso Guerra said that his electorate was our electorate”. Although he said that they did not make a left-wing newspaper, but that they gave him a voice when he did not have one. He confesses that they believed they had the right and that commercial reasons also played a role. The independence of the media should be a requirement when creating one and, according to Cebrián, the founders of El País “always defended the independence of the media”. After the founding, a list of the newspaper’s shareholders was made public, and among them were, as Ariza comments, Manuel Fraga and Ramón Tamames, as Cebrián, who at the time was a member of the central committee of the communist party, pointed out.
During the meeting, Julio Ariza pointed out that Juan Luis Cebrián’s visit to El Toro TV is encouraging for the following reasons: something serious is happening in Spain and there are still common elements that allow us to project ourselves to continue making a project of coexistence, despite having radically different thoughts on many issues.